Show #11: Those Pesky Humans and Carnage 2010

Mark and Jeff cover almost every aspect of the life of a boardgame in this show, we discuss a dusty old game box...then a game store...then a game...and lastly, a game convention!!!

Our Dusty Old Box segment focuses on something we believe few --if any-- of our listeners have encountered --a rare, Trademark game of space warfare potentially worth over $65,000! Or not. From here, we move on to our latest installment of our new segment, As Far As Possible Game Goes Kaupankaynti. Mark tells us about his game store-hunting in Washington DC, and then we strap into the Way-Back machine to revisit Jeff's recent trek to Game Empire in San Diego, CA. After hearing about Game Empire, we dig into our main segment for today's show: the game Those Pesky Humans, by Minion Games. This is primarily a 2-player game of human marauders perpetrating horrible injustices against the innocent monster home-owner who is just minding his own business. Lastly, we go into a brief recount of Jeff's experiences at the Carnage 2010 gaming convention. Lots of pics on the Gameopolis Flickr Page! We LOVE to hear from our listeners, so please post a comment to this blog entry, or send an email to!

  • 00:00:00 Prelude
  • 00:01:15 Dusty Old Box
  • 00:08:22 As Far As Possible Game Goes Kaupankaynti
  • 00:25:00 Those Pesky Humans
  • 00:39:09 After Action Report: Carnage 2010 Gaming Convention
  • 00:48:30 Sign-off

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  • Thanks for the post, cardaddy! Given your salutation, I cannot decide whether you are in Honolulu or Sydney ;-) No matter, we're glad you like the show, and hope that you stick with us. -Jeff

    posted by: Jeff (admin) on 2011-07-28 04:37:44

  • Aloha mate! Amazing blog! I really enjoyed being here.

    posted by: cardaddy on 2011-07-24 17:58:21

  • Wow, thanks for the mega-post, Walt! You bring up so many awesome points. First off, glad to hear you are liking the Dusty Old Box! I have ALWAYS loved digging through old game boxes, and in fact there have been games that I have sold-off on Ebay on the grounds that I never played the game...but then months later had to buy another copy since I SO MISSED the periodic venture rummaging through the box and the bits. Historicon and Cold Wars have been on my "to do" list for years. Don't think I will make it down there anytime soon --perhaps if my two boys grow up as gamers we can make them "father-sons" weekends!!! Right now I mostly do Carnage in November (Fairlee, VT) and Havoc in April (Shrewsbury, MA). Great hearing from you, Walt! We hope you keep listening. Best, Jeff

    posted by: Jeff (admin) on 2010-12-24 04:27:15

  • Part the last, conventions: You two seem to be casting about for conventions to attend. Might I suggest a few that might necessitate a journey south? HISTORICON is probably America's largest miniatures gaming convention, taking place in Valley Forge outside of Philly. It's a very reasonably priced convention with an amazing amount of vendors and lots of space to play. Games of almost limitless variety are played during the four day run of the con. COLD WARS and FALL IN are in Lancaster PA, in March and November-ish respectively. Cold Wars is also four days. Not as huge as HISTORICON because they are offseason, but still a great time. All of these cons are run by the HISTORICAL MINIATURES GAMING SOCIETY (HMGS). Their website is here: I used to run Cold Wars and if you give me some prior notice I might be able to manage press passes or free admission. V/R Walt O'Hara

    posted by: Walt O'Hara on 2010-12-23 15:09:10

  • Part B, As Far As Possible Game Goes Kaupankaynti: I felt bad for Mark for coming up croppers looking for a gaming store in the DC area. I wish I had had some prior notice, I could have emailed some suggestions to you. As it happens, I live in the Northern Virginia area, and we have three very decent game stores in a reasonable amount of distance from each other. IF there is a next time for either of you, I strongly suggest the GAME PARLOR in Chantilly's Sully Plaza area. They also have a smaller store in Woodbridge. One place that wasn't very far from where you were staying was EAGLE AND EMPIRE, which caters mostly to miniatures players these days. I hope this helps you, and I hope you have another chance to visit at some point. The Game Parlor has an area to play games in it, and it would be fun to get into one if you had the time during your trip. Part C, the last, follows

    posted by: Walt O'Hara on 2010-12-23 14:59:31

  • An excellent show, gentlemen. I've really enjoyed Gameopolis from show one onward. Normally I rarely comment on a show but I felt compelled because there were so many ooh YAH moments in this episode.. where I am listening and say "oh, yeah!" to something that has just been said. First point: Dusty old Box. I love this segment. More often than not it's a game that I have downstairs in the basement somewhere, as I do in the case of Freedom in the Galaxy. FitG has a reputation for being broken in certain circles. I do know that Nicky Palmer, one time contributor to the General and Member of Parliment, wrote a big article with proposed fixes to the game-- it's on BGG. There was a pretty serious attempt at playing it by forum on BGG back in February of 2010. You might want to check this out, the fan fiction for it was quite well written. There's also a cyberboard gamebox designed for this game. I wouldn't recommend it other than as a means of keep track of where pieces are. I tried playing an older favorite SPI game of mine, Swords and Sorcery, using Cyberboard and I consider it a big failure due to the high level of interactivity in the design. Too much is going on for cyberboard to support it well. Part B follows:

    posted by: Walt O'Hara on 2010-12-23 14:43:12

  • Are the docks down at the Gameopolis waterfront Hex shaped?

    posted by: Bill on 2010-12-17 15:33:15

  • Yes, I see what you mean, Tyler. That box art basically promises every imaginable thrill, chance and risk in this life and the next --all in a handy, portable 9 x 12 x 2 -inch box!!! I mean --that's ALMOST as good as the Star Trek Happy Meal Boxes of the early 1970s (wow, REALLY dating myself now...)

    posted by: Jeff (admin) on 2010-12-04 19:52:37

  • Also, I should mention that a box cover like Freedom in the Galaxy sets expectations that no game could ever live up to. That it was an Avalon Hill title was only further ignominy.

    posted by: Tyler on 2010-12-02 23:56:17

  • Glad to hear you had a good time at Carnage, Jeff! Hopefully next year you and Mark can make it for the whole weekend.

    posted by: Tyler on 2010-12-02 23:27:53

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